Subject	It's not nearly that simple.
Posted by	Marshall on January 18, 2004 at 11:49 PM
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In Reply To	Don't even bother discussing anything with MikeH... posted by nixit on January 18, 2004 at 04:11 PM
Message	Because different cars (NA vs FI) lose differing amounts of power based on those conditions. It is not one size fits all. The simple correction factor formula that those dynos use is not suited for forced induction. I don't want to stir anything else up on this topic because I don't want to cause or be involved in another argument, so just look into the issue a little bit more and you'll see.
Follow Ups	New PE1420 Numbers and lots O pics. - colocomp (Denver) 15:38:06 01/18/04 Nice pics. No dyno charts? (n/m) - JC (Vegas) 15:44:01 01/18/04 I am sure Tim will post them later. - colocomp (Denver) 15:45:53 01/18/04 Okay. Thanks. (n/m) - JC (Vegas) 15:48:44 01/18/04 Nice Cars. Is that corrected HP for Denver or actual - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 15:57:22 01/18/04 SAE Corrected (n/m) - colocomp (Denver) 16:00:49 01/18/04 Re: SAE Corrected for NA cars. (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:01:56 01/18/04 But NA cars are still affected by altitude? (n/m) - gtclk 16:06:28 01/18/04 not like turbo cars. The dyno numbers are for turbo - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:08:42 01/18/04 Don't even bother discussing anything with MikeH... - nixit 16:11:33 01/18/04 Shows how much smarts you know when it comes - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:14:08 01/18/04 No one disputes that........ (n/m) - colocomp (Denver) 16:18:05 01/18/04 It's not nearly that simple. - Marshall 23:49:39 01/18/04 Mike it's all we got, the air is thinner here deal with it - colocomp (Denver) 16:08:59 01/18/04 Does the dyno operator put a setting in the computer - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:10:31 01/18/04 NO.. he does not do it at 3000 ft dyno locations either. (n/m) - colocomp (Denver) 16:12:33 01/18/04 What does 3000 ft have do with it? (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:14:49 01/18/04 Lower Dynojet locations use SAE corrections as well - colocomp (Denver) 16:17:00 01/18/04 WOW... you are truelly remarkable. - nixit 16:23:51 01/18/04 read this link from sport compact cars when it talks - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:30:38 01/18/04 You're reading my post but not understanding... - colocomp (Denver) 16:43:50 01/18/04 I understand but most everyone does not live in - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:49:51 01/18/04 It is all we have, I now have seen Z dynos at - colocomp (Denver) 16:58:11 01/18/04 The 14% is too high for turbo cars. That standard is - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:23:58 01/18/04 We all have an advantage over NA cars - colocomp (Denver) 17:29:20 01/18/04 "Stage 3 Z's 320 to 340 rwhp 14 to 15 PSI" is HIGH -> - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 17:10:36 01/18/04 I have seen poor running stage 3's dyno @ to 280 to - colocomp (Denver) 17:23:18 01/18/04 But you're in Denver too right? What seems normal to you - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 17:53:40 01/18/04 There are so many variables that one could take into - colocomp (Denver) 18:05:20 01/18/04 The further you are away from sea level, the less VALID the - Z-Jay (Edmonton, AB) 23:56:17 01/18/04 Turbos have an advantage at lower elevations - colocomp (Denver) 07:41:08 01/19/04 Re: New PE1420 Numbers and lots O pics. - Magnum 16:05:46 01/18/04 I think the spiking might have peak those numbers. (n/m) - colocomp (Denver) 16:11:34 01/18/04 I'm not claiming anything but who gave you that 1420 info? (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 20:31:50 01/18/04 thats just gonna be wrong! nobody has even done max - Gsujeff55 11:46:04 01/19/04 Re: New PE1420 Numbers and lots O pics. - frozenguy 16:07:12 01/18/04 I have some more, I love the big downforce tail. (n/m) - colocomp (Denver) 16:15:26 01/18/04 great pics! (n/m) - Spee 16:14:32 01/18/04 Nice numbers. - Thrash 16:37:35 01/18/04 I think everyone should dyno at the beach. - nixit 16:39:34 01/18/04 I agree, if we are off it is only 1 to 2% - colocomp (Denver) 16:47:03 01/18/04 I've seen dyno corrections for denver around 20% - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 16:56:28 01/18/04 Knucklehead - colocomp (Denver) 17:00:32 01/18/04 are you disputing that? I have seen dyno charts that - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:19:20 01/18/04 No, you still can't comprehend... - colocomp (Denver) 17:25:37 01/18/04 No the correction for turbo cars is about 3-6 percent - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:06:27 01/18/04 VS. NA, not turbo VS turbo on the same SAE scale. - colocomp (Denver) 18:13:50 01/18/04 Look at this site, and plug in the numbers it is more - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 18:50:58 01/18/04 Mike get over the NA thing, I am trying to - colocomp (Denver) 19:18:29 01/18/04 Cool Site - I wouldve gained 12 hp if I did the correction - Thrash 19:49:18 01/18/04 Very nice numbers! - Chip(GMS Racing) 17:20:42 01/18/04 Nice numbers... can't wait for the chart. - degradated 19:47:03 01/18/04 I can't get more that 24.9 PSI max on stock ported manis (n/m) - Thrash 19:50:53 01/18/04 That's still not bad... - degradated 19:56:29 01/18/04 REad my post below and you'll see why I didn't use race gas. (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 20:28:53 01/18/04 This is exactly why I wasn't going to post THIS dyno session - Woody75 (Denver) 20:27:50 01/18/04 I for one almost have a tear in my eye... - ni[X]it 10:14:37 01/19/04 Awesome numbers...great job!!! (n/m) - mr. zed line 16:06:20 01/19/04 Awesome pics .. all the Zs look flawlez - PLEAZURE in CA (SD) 20:55:02 01/18/04 lol, I have that wideband shown in the viper... - KaZ (VaBch) 21:36:42 01/18/04 Wow! Very nice. (n/m) - DVDBURN (MD) 22:09:43 01/18/04 Re: New PE1420 Numbers and lots O pics. - SR Productions (C5 Bound) 22:51:49 01/18/04 nice! what kind of numbers did the porsches put down. (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 09:07:35 01/19/04
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